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Poster: tterrace Date: Mar 19, 2012 1:31pm
Forum: movies Subject: 35mm Stock Footage Aspect Ratios

This is a wonderful and entertaining collection, but I notice that often the films are cropped to an incorrect aspect ratio. For example:

http://www.archive.org/details/WingsoverGoldenGateBridge_B

The missing portion is usually obvious during the film (also in Part i) but most dramatically obvious at the end of Part II, in which the bottom of the end title card is sliced off, almost entirely eliminating the music credit. Quite a few other films I've checked, all shot in the Academy Ratio era, have also been cropped in this fashion.

This one, on the other hand:

http://www.archive.org/details/8539_R458RC_12-8-9_1622_LA_color

was shot in scope, but here isn't unsqueezed enough, showing at about 1.85:1 rather than 2.35:1, leaving everything squashed horizontally.

I should point out that this is the case viewed online with both the html5 and Flash viewers in two different browsers, as well as when viewing the downloaded 720p file offline.

I'm not familiar with the IA's operations, but is there a possibility these can be fixed if pointed out to someone?

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Poster: Rick Prelinger Date: Mar 20, 2012 6:38pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: 35mm Stock Footage Aspect Ratios

I'll check the transfer on Wings Over the Golden Gate. I have a hunch that the film itself was printed off center, but I'm not 100% sure.

As for the second instance, you're right -- I'll unsqueeze the file to Scope aspect ratio and reload. Won't be until next week, probably -- plate overfull right now.

Thanks for pointing out.

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Poster: tterrace Date: Mar 20, 2012 7:01pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: 35mm Stock Footage Aspect Ratios

Thanks! As I said, I noticed a number of other films also seemed to be cropped top and/or bottom. Most would have been shot Academy Ratio and should therefore fill the screen, but some are showing at about 1:1.66, which would generally only result from cropping. Would it be helpful if I kept a list as I browse and post it?

Thanks again.

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Poster: Rick Prelinger Date: Mar 20, 2012 7:13pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: 35mm Stock Footage Aspect Ratios

Sure. I wonder if some of these were shot full aperture -- many were shot silent for use as process plates, and some were of course shot in the silent era. That would bring the ratio a bit closer to 1:1.66.

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Poster: tterrace Date: Mar 20, 2012 7:33pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: 35mm Stock Footage Aspect Ratios

Actually, full aperture is 1.33:1.

http://tinyurl.com/7r3h7xd

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Poster: Rick Prelinger Date: Mar 20, 2012 9:22pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: 35mm Stock Footage Aspect Ratios

My face is red. Will look into this.